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		<title>By: &#8220;lelangiric&#8221; &#187; The Poetics of Genderbenderism, The Cacophony of Gender</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8220;lelangiric&#8221; &#187; The Poetics of Genderbenderism, The Cacophony of Gender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Poetics of Genderbenderism, The Cacophony of Gender &#171; &#8220;Lelangiric&#8221;, or so they say&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Poetics of Genderbenderism, The Cacophony of Gender &#171; &#8220;Lelangiric&#8221;, or so they say&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 00:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Trapped in Canon &#171; The Animanachronism</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trapped in Canon &#171; The Animanachronism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 12:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] fap&#8217;d to a trap, can you never go back?&#8217; Granted, this subject is hardly new (here&#8217;s one example of many others&#8217; entries on it, and here&#8217;s another) but I&#8217;m [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] fap&#8217;d to a trap, can you never go back?&#8217; Granted, this subject is hardly new (here&#8217;s one example of many others&#8217; entries on it, and here&#8217;s another) but I&#8217;m [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tekochi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tekochi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 11:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love girly boys. Draw em' every day. Hiii Haruhi!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love girly boys. Draw em&#8217; every day. Hiii Haruhi!</p>
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		<title>By: emmyriceball</title>
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		<dc:creator>emmyriceball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 20:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was a very well written article. :3 I already believe you know my thoughts about traps. x3 I really need to watch that Kino series, but haven't gotten around to it. From what I've read just now, though, it's moved up a bit on my to watch list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was a very well written article. :3 I already believe you know my thoughts about traps. x3 I really need to watch that Kino series, but haven&#8217;t gotten around to it. From what I&#8217;ve read just now, though, it&#8217;s moved up a bit on my to watch list.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 17:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Fatestaysmart: You're abolutely right about Miyazaki's portrayal of women in his movies: I've seen pretty much all of his apart from Kiki's Delivery Service, and I cited the Miyazaki Heroine in my own post as an example of how some of the trends are being broken. I get a strong pro-feminist (or more accurately, a strong equality) message from a lot of his work, which is very refreshing and inspiring. As for this observation you made:

"In other words, the fact that you were indecisive at first about Kino’s sex by way of the masculine gender roles she follows proves Miyazaki’s point about the way the male is programmed to view a woman, whether real or 2-D."

It's more to do with how we as anime viewers expect a character to be portrayed - Kino doesn't show many of the mannerisms and characteristics of the 'anime female' stereotype (e.g. exaggerated breat size, high vocal pitch, unpractical hair length, and so on). The writers and animators who worked on Kino's Journey didn't follow the normal course of portraying the protagonist's gender, which takes the viewer by surprise. It's an unconventional show in many ways too, which is why I enjoyed it so much!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Fatestaysmart: You&#8217;re abolutely right about Miyazaki&#8217;s portrayal of women in his movies: I&#8217;ve seen pretty much all of his apart from Kiki&#8217;s Delivery Service, and I cited the Miyazaki Heroine in my own post as an example of how some of the trends are being broken. I get a strong pro-feminist (or more accurately, a strong equality) message from a lot of his work, which is very refreshing and inspiring. As for this observation you made:</p>
<p>&#8220;In other words, the fact that you were indecisive at first about Kino’s sex by way of the masculine gender roles she follows proves Miyazaki’s point about the way the male is programmed to view a woman, whether real or 2-D.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s more to do with how we as anime viewers expect a character to be portrayed - Kino doesn&#8217;t show many of the mannerisms and characteristics of the &#8216;anime female&#8217; stereotype (e.g. exaggerated breat size, high vocal pitch, unpractical hair length, and so on). The writers and animators who worked on Kino&#8217;s Journey didn&#8217;t follow the normal course of portraying the protagonist&#8217;s gender, which takes the viewer by surprise. It&#8217;s an unconventional show in many ways too, which is why I enjoyed it so much!</p>
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		<title>By: fatestaysmart</title>
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		<dc:creator>fatestaysmart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 01:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martin: I have to mention this. Though I haven't seen Kino No Tabi, I know about Miyazaki. 

I am going to take a shot in the dark and say that Kino's perceived androgynous ways aren't androgynous at all. Miyazaki is a hardcore feminists who prides himself on perpetuating the role of the strong female persona in the midst of all the cutesy, typical, and stereotypical smut that comes from single-minded creators on a mission to create characters that sell. Miyazaki also has an opposing sense of what is moé by portraying powerful, level-headed females in a way that makes them more desirable, quite possibly, by simply the fact that they can stand on their two feet without having to trip, fall on their face, then apologize in a high-pitched voice. In other words, the fact that you were indecisive at first about Kino's sex by way of the masculine gender roles she follows proves Miyazaki's point about the way the male is programmed to view a woman, whether real or 2-D.

Oh, and there are plenty of examples of females using masculine cues in their [Japanese] speech. Just watch more Miyazaki films, and check out my anime references in my blog response to this article. ^_^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin: I have to mention this. Though I haven&#8217;t seen Kino No Tabi, I know about Miyazaki. </p>
<p>I am going to take a shot in the dark and say that Kino&#8217;s perceived androgynous ways aren&#8217;t androgynous at all. Miyazaki is a hardcore feminists who prides himself on perpetuating the role of the strong female persona in the midst of all the cutesy, typical, and stereotypical smut that comes from single-minded creators on a mission to create characters that sell. Miyazaki also has an opposing sense of what is moé by portraying powerful, level-headed females in a way that makes them more desirable, quite possibly, by simply the fact that they can stand on their two feet without having to trip, fall on their face, then apologize in a high-pitched voice. In other words, the fact that you were indecisive at first about Kino&#8217;s sex by way of the masculine gender roles she follows proves Miyazaki&#8217;s point about the way the male is programmed to view a woman, whether real or 2-D.</p>
<p>Oh, and there are plenty of examples of females using masculine cues in their [Japanese] speech. Just watch more Miyazaki films, and check out my anime references in my blog response to this article. ^_^</p>
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		<title>By: bettynoire</title>
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		<dc:creator>bettynoire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 19:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TheBigN: Well, it ain't like there's a few traps I'd totally appreciate being attracted to. Bridget, anyone? It's just an aesthetic, the girly girl thing, that bothers me. Typically I don't even like really girly females, so I think it's more a rejection of the stereotype that was expected of me as a kid. Needless to say, I didn't like it then either. :-p Good point though, Since a person of the opposite gender is acting out the opposite stereotype, it does raise questions as to whether that stereotype should be considered to have any relevance regarding gender. It's a subtly different way of thinking about it, but it makes a lot of sense.


Martin: You make me want to put Kin's Journey at the top of my to-watch list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TheBigN: Well, it ain&#8217;t like there&#8217;s a few traps I&#8217;d totally appreciate being attracted to. Bridget, anyone? It&#8217;s just an aesthetic, the girly girl thing, that bothers me. Typically I don&#8217;t even like really girly females, so I think it&#8217;s more a rejection of the stereotype that was expected of me as a kid. Needless to say, I didn&#8217;t like it then either. :-p Good point though, Since a person of the opposite gender is acting out the opposite stereotype, it does raise questions as to whether that stereotype should be considered to have any relevance regarding gender. It&#8217;s a subtly different way of thinking about it, but it makes a lot of sense.</p>
<p>Martin: You make me want to put Kin&#8217;s Journey at the top of my to-watch list.</p>
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		<title>By: TheBigN</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheBigN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 18:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bettynoire: That reinforcing of roles is there, but the important point is that it's the opposite gender that reinforces the role, and that confusion is the point.  At the same time, there are good roles that challenge what's been shown. Kino from Kino's Journey is a great example of that (check it out if you haven't already). Or so I'd like to think. And open your mind a little more. :P

Martin: I've seen Kino, so you don't have to worry about spoilers in my case.  I think that the androgyny was just androgyny in her case. Kino is Kino, and that's one of the points that remains throughout the series.  Though it's a nice representation of who she is, I'd like to think that it's not a main point of her character. It is something I haven't thought about till now. Thanks. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bettynoire: That reinforcing of roles is there, but the important point is that it&#8217;s the opposite gender that reinforces the role, and that confusion is the point.  At the same time, there are good roles that challenge what&#8217;s been shown. Kino from Kino&#8217;s Journey is a great example of that (check it out if you haven&#8217;t already). Or so I&#8217;d like to think. And open your mind a little more. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Martin: I&#8217;ve seen Kino, so you don&#8217;t have to worry about spoilers in my case.  I think that the androgyny was just androgyny in her case. Kino is Kino, and that&#8217;s one of the points that remains throughout the series.  Though it&#8217;s a nice representation of who she is, I&#8217;d like to think that it&#8217;s not a main point of her character. It is something I haven&#8217;t thought about till now. Thanks. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 18:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post. My own experience of a 'trap' was Kino's Journey...in my first review of the series I admitted that I wasn't sure of the protagonist's gender (it turns out she's a girl but took her name from a man...I'll leave it there for fear of spoilers).

It had me wondering if her androgeny had something important to say about her as a person - as an innocent bystander/just passing through type of character, was her gender deliberately poorly defined to draw attention to her neutrality? In the Life Goes On prequel movie, she even projects this neutrality in certain scenes when she uses dialogue grammar that's associated with either male or female speakers. Odd...

Maybe there are other cases such as this in other shows too...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. My own experience of a &#8216;trap&#8217; was Kino&#8217;s Journey&#8230;in my first review of the series I admitted that I wasn&#8217;t sure of the protagonist&#8217;s gender (it turns out she&#8217;s a girl but took her name from a man&#8230;I&#8217;ll leave it there for fear of spoilers).</p>
<p>It had me wondering if her androgeny had something important to say about her as a person - as an innocent bystander/just passing through type of character, was her gender deliberately poorly defined to draw attention to her neutrality? In the Life Goes On prequel movie, she even projects this neutrality in certain scenes when she uses dialogue grammar that&#8217;s associated with either male or female speakers. Odd&#8230;</p>
<p>Maybe there are other cases such as this in other shows too&#8230;?</p>
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